ZAGREB, Jan 31 (Hina) - The CNN station on Friday aired an
interview with Croatian President Franjo Tudjman, focusing on the
situation in Bosnia-Herzegovina, the political situation in
Croatia, Croatia's views on recent developments in Yugoslavia and
other issues.
Asked by the Global View anchor Ralph Begleiter how committed
Croatia was to the continued existence of Bosnia as an independent
entity, the Croatian President answered that Croatia had signed the
Dayton agreement after the Washington Agreement.
- As one of the signatories of the Dayton Accord, Croatia
resolutely supports its implementation, and in this regard,
cooperates fully with the international community and authorities
in Bosnia-Herzegovina. But, of course, there are many problems in
fulfilling this agreement in Bosnia-Herzegovina.
Asked whether Croatia cooperated with the International
Criminal Tribunal for Former Yugoslavia in The Hague, the Croatian
President replied:
- I think that I could say that Croatia alone cooperates quite
well, which I couldn't say about other parties.
President Tudjman rejected allegations that war crimes
suspects were staying in Croatia, stressing that, as far as
Croatian authorities knew, there was not a single war criminal in
Croatia.
Asked whether Croatia had so far transferred any war criminals
to The Hague tribunal, President Tudjman replied:
- Of course, we transferred Gen. Blaskic, and we also arrested
one of the accused who is now under the Croatian judiciary.
Begleiter then asked President Tudjman if it was his
commitment that parts of Bosnia where many Croats lived, such as
western Mostar, should remain Bosnian and not Croatian.
- It depends on the solution of the whole Bosnian crisis. But
Mostar is a region where there was very hard fighting between the
Yugo-Communist and Serbian aggressors and Croats and Moslems, and
after that between Croats and Moslems. But we have peace there now.
Of course, there are extremists on both sides and who have to be
eliminated. But I think that in this region also there would be
peace and I hope that there would be also success in the
establishment of cantonal and federal authorities.
Referring to alleged reports that Moslems were being evicted
from their homes in western Mostar, that the Croatian flag was
still flying in that part of Bosnia and that the Croatian currency
was being used, President Tudjman said this was a one-sided view.
"There are many more problems with Moslem extremists than with
Croats. The Croatian flag is a normal flag for this region because
this is one of the purest Croatian regions," President Tudjman
said. He added that there was no common flag as yet and Bosnian
Croats had proposed a flag that would be acceptable to both sides.
As for the currency, that was a matter to be negotiated between the
three parties.
Asked to comment on the events in Serbia in the last few weeks
and their possible implications for Croatia, President Tudjman
said:
- Of course, we are very interested in what is going on in
Serbia. But what is happening there will not have any influence on
Croatia. Croatia wishes to have good relations with all its
neighbours, including Serbia. However, good- neighbourly relations
do not mean accepting to be drawn into some new associations with
Serbia, because we are oriented towards central Europe. But it is
very interesting that the leaders of demonstrations are the same
leaders who promoted the greater-Serbian idea, I could even say,
greater-Serbian imperialism. But that's a matter of internal
Serbian relations.
The next question was whether a similar turn of events could
occur in Croatia, since some analysts believed that the opposition
in Croatia was stronger than the opposition in Serbia. President
Tudjman replied in the negative, stressing that Croatia had a
stable democratic order.
- Despite the war and Yugo-Communist and Serbian aggression,
in the last six years we have had three elections - one for
Parliament and two for President. And there is no comparison
between the situation in Croatia and in Serbia. We have a stable
economic situation, a stable currency and there is no danger of
such a situation in Croatia as we see now in Serbia.
Asked whether he would step down and leave power if "by some
chance, he was to lose the election" President Tudjman said:
- Of course, you should have no doubts about that. But there
is no chance that I and the HDZ could lose. We have support from
the majority of people. Even the USIA agency made a poll and they
concluded that the majority party had the support of 43% of the
population and other parties two or three times less. Even
supporters of opposition parties now support the current President.
With regard to the reintegration of eastern Slavonia,
President Tudjman was asked whether all Serbs who once lived there
would be allowed to return and live under the Croatian flag.
- We agreed to the peaceful reintegration of eastern Slavonia.
And we agreed that those Serbian people who accepted the Croatian
state could return. But the majority of them had freely left
Croatia. You have examples not only in the contemporary horrible
events in Yugoslavia but also during World War II and after that
when there was such movement of people that they could not all
return to their former region. But we guarantee to the Serbian
population all human and ethnic rights at the high level of
international standards - all those who accept Croatia as their
state.
President Tudjman went on to refute Mr. Begleiter's statement
that 400,000 Serbs had fled the recently-liberated areas.
- Four hundred thousand Croatian people, not only Croatians,
but also Hungarians, Slovaks, Germans ... were expelled from Yugo-
Communist and Serbian aggression. And almost one third of Croatian
territory was destroyed. But when we liberated Croatia, the
Croatian Government and I personally appealed to the Serbian people
to stay in this region. But they left and there weren't four
hundred thousand, it was approximately a hundred and fifty thousand
people.
Apologising over having to ask "a very difficult question,"
Begleiter asked President Tudjman to say something about his
health.
- My health state is satisfactory and it is improving very
well. So I can perform not only my presidential duties without
difficulties but I also enjoy my regular tennis playing. After this
meeting I am going to a tennis court.
Asked to comment on allegations that he had irreversible
stomach cancer, President Tudjman said this information was
exaggerated.
- Is that information wrong?
- In some way, yes.
Asked whether he had prospects of continuing as the president
of Croatia, President Tudjman answered:
- Of course, as I said, I perform all my presidential duties
and if you ask me if I will run for another presidential term, the
answer is yes.
Begleiter concluded by asking President Tudjman if he had any
regrets "about the way he may have directed things at the beginning
of the war," particularly with regard to Vukovar, or "any regrets
about the conduct of Croatian military forces and other Croatians
in the course of that war."
- Mr. Begleiter, first of all I am proud of all I and the
Croatian people have done in escaping from the Communist Yugoslav
regime and in the struggle for independence and Croatian democracy.
And you cannot judge about the Croatian behaviour during the
liberation of Croatian territory if you don't have in mind what
happened at the beginning, when the Yugoslav-Communist army and the
Serbian aggressors expelled almost half a million Croatian
citizens, when they destroyed Vukovar and dozens of other towns.
And there is a feeling of frustration among the Croatian people and
such terrible feelings are difficult to control. And during the
liberation of Croatia some isolated incidents did take place but
that was not policy, and we not only tried to prevent them but we
also prosecuted the perpetrators.
- You have to have in mind that I wanted to prevent any
struggle. I proposed to the Yugoslav Government, at the beginning
of democratisation, a solution to the Yugoslav crisis - a
confederation, but they didn't accept, they began the aggression
with the Yugoslav Communist army. After that, they armed the
Serbian population in Croatia and began all these war horrors in
Croatia and in Bosnia-Herzegovina. So, generally speaking, there is
no guilt on either the Croatian or the Bosnian side, President
Tudjman concluded.
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